My main question about these and other cheap tools is; are they the lifetime tools that the Stanleys Disstons and Sorbys of old are? Though I did get it to work after a fashion, It took me almost 10 years before I learned enough about tuning a plane to make it work really well. Yes.

When the sole shows a uniform scuff pattern, it's flat. The Stanley #4 1/2 planes are hard to find and cost 3 times what a #4 does, so why arent these knockoff outfits like Lowes Kobalt making 4 1/2s? Position it in the plane's body, bevel up, engaging the appropriate notch over the tang on the adjuster, when applicable. Not as many lifetimes as the type 16 Stanley #4 I just purchased but well see. I havent actually tried out the rest of the plane as such. I know some who have owned these for decades and used them without any issues. In saying that I did inadvertently purchase an India manufactured knockoff Record no. I decided to try to use this imported bailey clone. I will say this.

Buy a couple of sheets of each grit. So I planed down the white paint on the inner edge, and painted back on a single coat, and now they close quite well.

Quite strange. It definitely feels better than the Harbor Freight #4 I did the same thing to a few years back. Hi Robin)
But I found a better way,on the last of 6doors I had to fit,just knock the bottom and top frame pieces of wood out then just planes the hardboard,then glue the wood back in.Im a slow learner. If so that probably answers your question about them in the uk. Polish it, following the same procedure with progressively finer sandpaper grits. In this article, you'll learn how to use a block plane and find tips for sharpening and buying them. Nothing beats a handy little block plane for simplicity and convenience. A sharp, properly adjusted hand plane allows a woodworker to peel a whisper-thin shaving from wood while leaving a surface of unsurpassed quality. The brand was MacAllister (anybody living in France will recognise that). A sharp blade will cut fine shavings.

A). I spent ages ages fettling it, particularly to flatten the sole which was way out, but I then discovered something which seemed irretrievable. Dont over-tighten it or you wont be able to lower and raise the blade. You have student on a grant in Wisbech who never had a chance to progress a bent for woodworking and then she/he sees a YT video or searches google and yours truly pops up and says this will work and they are on their way. I also read part 3 and will be doing your mod to the cap lever during the next sharpening before I start on the 2nd lamination. Set the honing guide for 25 degrees and grind the primary bevel (Fig. As interesting as it is to read these experiences, isnt it much better to buy second hand planes/chisels and renovate them. On a block plane, you should check two main pointssole flatness and iron bedding. I am not endorsing cheapo planes or imports per se, just getting some clay on the wheel. In a bench plane, it's normally about 45. This bedding angle is usually in the neighborhood of 20 for block planes. All Rights Reserved.

Meanwhile I picked up a 15 pre-war millers falls (do people in the U.K. not know how good these planes are!) (A cast-iron saw table or piece of glass would do.) Flatten the back of the blade and remove scratches and milling marks by grinding it, beginning with 220-grit sandpaper and working to 600-grit (Photo 7). While I am not the student on a grant, I did see a YT video of you making a bench in your garden. it can also be used to describe the act of throwing-up after drinking too much alcohol!!

Buy two 12-in. Make sure you hold the back of the blade exactly flat on the sandpaper when you grind off the burr. After taking cuts on both sides until I had leveled the blade, I was able to get shavings that according to my dial caliper were .006. One, the lever cam is for a quick set and then the setscrew is for locking in place. This information was quite timely for me as adjusting the cap iron screw while trying to get the plane working again following that first re-sharpening was quite fiddly. To allow for the fact that the blade gets shorter as its repeatedly resharpened, most plane blades can be positioned in any number of slots. They have some great tools; along with Goodell-Pratt (who have lovely drills, squares, dividers, and a great spokeshave, but alas no planes) before they merged with Millers Falls in 1932~ or so. Thanks for taking the time to log your comments on the Kobalt. Ease edges and round off corners by setting the plane for a very light cut and making the first pass at a 45-degree angle to the face of the board. I bought the number 4 plane set from Harbor Freight for ONE purpose. I have also smoothed the bottom of that lamination using this tool. Its not meant to be an either/or as such and nor is it too limited so this could be a way to just open an otherwise closed door. While you didnt spend much time on that, it seemed to me that a flat metal surface was better than than the thickly painted over ones . How well I will let you know. That's why these venerable toolsplanes go back to Roman timesstill fit into today's shop. With only basic woodworking skills, a tablesaw, and a few simple tools, you can make custom cabinets for your home or shop. I believe you can tune up any plane I remember you tuned old Record plane) So whats the difference )) Just amount of time and sand paper you need to spend for tuning. Plus the last Stanley #4 I purchased was $5.00 :). I bought a #4 and #5 Craftsman from the 60s because they matched a block plane I got when my dad passed. just really tedious to do. After I assembled and adjusted as close as I could to your video. This was remedied with a file easily enough.The depth adjustment mechanism uses two stamped pieces of soft steel, so soft that they would just bend out of the adjustment screw in stead of actually adjusting the blade. I had to flatten the front of the cap, but besides that and an initial sharpening it was ready to go. U think that they have changed theirs from the rosewood handles to plastic now. Thanks for your input here. All Rights Reserved. Paul, do you know any way this could be fixed? Even then I understood there was nothing I could do to fix the plane : the bed the frog rests on was at an angle to the sole. For now I am trusting you that I can use a bailey style no 4 (which was cast into the sole of this plane behind the front knob). Roy, To a Northern English and particularly a Yorkshireman, To Fettle means To modify, alter, change or touch up something. The yellow nylonny handles felt comfortable to me and funnily enough I cant always say that for wooden ones. It is nearly identical to my dads old Stanley #4. It's here! Well, because now its flat of course! It would no doubt really help folks who are on a tight budget. I can indeed back up how great Millers Falls are, at least Pre-war, with Planes. No internet then, so I had to wait until I worked with an old guy who really knew the tools. Heres how. Rout the recesses right to hold a lid upright. Paul, firstly thanks for your contributions! Retract the iron, and rub the plane sole over the abrasive. I had a few cabinet doors in my apartment that have been painted over by the landlord so many times, they wouldnt stay shut. The big difference is the quality of the casting (is the mouth straight and the right size), how well the frog is machined and fitted, how fine is the depth and lateral adjustment. And, among hand planes, the block plane ranks near the top for versatility and convenience. You must be logged in to reply to this topic. Yes, plastic handles might be a bit naff but then again you are in the zone name stamp or no. Inspect the back every five or six strokes and continue until the sheen is even. Looking forward to see what you find out Paul. Then keep the blade sharp. PS. Then flip the blade over, backside down on the sandpaper, and sand off the burr with 600-grit paper. Was going to purchase a woodriver no 4, but ended up with the stanley. Resharpen the blade often to maintain the edge and youll always be ready to trim a door, loosen a drawer, or unstick a window at a moments notice. Just to start out I opened the box to see what I had bought. I also did a little more work on the cap iron than you showed mainly working on it until I had a nice flat edge on the blade side and a nice bevel on the spring side. I then found your restoring old planes video. Luckily for me the shop gave me a refund.

The lever on the lever cap had a completely square profile, and was thus impossible to use. That was when I realized that the new Stanley was nothing like the plane you where using. You only need to progress to the 220-grit paper. I wanted to get started and couldnt find a vintage plane. Here are the key steps to getting a plane blade sharp: For 25 years, Ive been struggling with my trusty old oilstone to achieve the elusive razor-sharp edge.

If you do a follow up, can you show how you deal with adjusting the frogs with each tool? Welcome! Removing this mechanism altogether did remedy that though. `when I was young there would have been many, many thousands.

Fortunately, Axminster took it back but I had wasted hours. Paint and other finishes rapidly dull plane blades. (See the Cutting Edges Comparison illustration below.) Work from the short side to the long side of the miter to avoid planing against the grain. Just feel right in my hand.

In this case the mould seam left an exaggerated line that will need removal before use or a blister will come as result. I went to Homedepot and purchased the most flat granite tile I could find, a bunch of sandpaper (120 through 2000), a 14 piece of (expensive) oak and then from hobby lobby a piece of leather, and from walmart some turtlewax metal polish for a strop. Miserable iron, bumped sole, curved throat and tote, that makes your hand bloody in a few seconds. Same story with the cap iron, its rather floppy and raged, not really useful. I went to Lowes and purchased a Kobalt plane. New to woodworking? The bottom is flat and the weight is solid. If you had to recommend three, which hand planes should I start with? Herald Journal of Geography and Regional Planning, The Quest for Mainstreaming Climate Change Adaptation into Regional Planning of Least Developed Countries: Strategy Implications for Regions in Ethiopia, Women and development process in Nigeria: a case study of rural women organizations in Community development in Cross River State, Dimensions of water accessibility in Eastern Kogi State of Nigeria, Changes in land use and socio-ecological patterns: the case of tropical rainforests in West Africa, Environmental management: its health implications, Intra-urban pattern of cancer morbidity and the associated socio-environmental factors in Ile-Ife, South-western Nigeria, Production Performance of Fayoumi Chicken Breed Under Backyard Management Condition in Mid Rift Valley of Ethiopia, Geospatial analysis of end-of-life/used Vehicle dumps in Africa; Nigeria case study, Determination of optimal sowing date for cowpea (Vignaunguiculata) intercropped with maize (Zea mays L.) in Western Gojam, Ethiopia, Heavy metal Phytoremediation potentials of Lepidum sativum L., Lactuca sativa L., Spinacia oleracea L. and Raphanus sativus L, Socio-economic factors affecting household solid waste generation in selected wards in Ife central Local Government area, Nigeria, Termites impact on different age of Cocoa (Theobroma cocoa L.) plantations with different fertilizer treatments in semi- deciduous forest zone (Oume, Ivory Coast), Weak Notion of Animal Rights: A Critical Response to Feinberg and Warren Conceptions, Assessment of Environmental Health Conditions in Urban Squatters of Greater Khartoum, Mayo Area in the Southern Khartoum, Sudan: 1987 2011, Comparative analysis of the effects of annual flooding on the maternal health of women floodplain and non floodplain dwellers in Makurdi urban area, Benue state, Nigeria, Analysis of occupational and environmental hazards associated with cassava processing in Edo state Nigeria, Herald Journal of Petroleum and Mineral Research, Herald Journal Biochemistry and Bioinformatics, Herald Journal of Marketing and Business Management, Herald Journal of Pharmacy and Pharmacological Research, Herald Journal of Pure and Applied Physics, Herald Journal of Plant and Animal Sciences, Herald Journal of Microbiology and Biotechnology. The plastic handles are solid, but had a 1-2mm step at the mold line, fixed easy enough with a file and sandpaper though. The frog was so far out of square that it was impossible to get the blade to sit flat on it, even with it twisted as far as the adjustment screws would allow. By the DIY experts of The Family Handyman Magazine. It's versatile enough to perform all kinds of cutting and shaping tasks, yet small enough to fit in a tool pouch. Holds the sharpness fine. So much so that I actually went to the wood working store and purchased an expensive new Stanley sweetheart no. Theres no skill or guesswork required. sure we all need the exercise. Angle the plane slightly to the backside of the miter to help the face of the miter fit tighter. honest appraisal of various tools and methods. In this model the handle is screwed to the body through the sole of the plane and with the example I picked off the shelf the screw protrudes from the sole! I have not looked at this kobalt plane but I have looked at some new $10 planes. Hold the plane at an angle to the wood so the blade slices off thin, even shavings (Photo 2). I must admit though, this standard was set by Stanley UK back in the 1960s because thats how their planes arrived from Sheffield. One was a Use Luck No.3 from Jula. Scuff marks indicate high spots on the sole. The Other one, a No.4 from Biltema was much better. This very wrong! To check the bedding, extend the iron. Most things are ok with them the biggest difference from an old Stanley is the iron quality and the adjustments are very coarse. SteveWales that would be the stanley 2 adjustable plane. Remove the cap by sliding the lever, or in some cases loosening the screw that holds it in place, and lifting it off to expose the blade. Some block planes feature an adjustable mouth. 2018 Herald International Research Journals. After all of that work it made a great scrub though.

I spent a bit of time on the nubs where the frog and the sole meet, mostly sanding until all the paint was removed and I had nice square metal flats for the frog to rest on. The second wrong signal is that the blade should protrude through the throat 3mm (1/8) to cut. Three great finishes (that aren't polyurethane). I cleaned up the mouth til it was nice and square. I converted the so-called #33 bench plane from Harbor Freight to a scrub plane. Unfinished garage becomes a woodworking haven. Ideally I would hope that the general feedback and reviews will filter back to the manufacturers in one way or another and result in a better result in the compromise between price point and quality. It kinda works, but im spending increasing amounts of time on ebay to find a real plane so my handyman can get the higher angle. Photos 2 5 show some of the ways you can use a block plane to accomplish everyday carpentry tasks. Please click here to read it before you provide any information on this form. Test the cut on a scrap of wood and raise the blade a little at a time as necessary to achieve the desired cut. Slide the blade back and forth across the grinding surface until you raise a burr on the back of the blade (you can feel the burr with your fingernail). Which hand planes should a power-tool woodworker buy first? M gut feeling is the plane will work. Would be great if someone could make a resonantly priced plane like the kobalt that would still work good, it would be a great first learning experience for kids. Now Ive abandoned that method in favor of one thats better and faster. Keep your favorite wines, stemware, and serving accessories handy in this stylish unit. Grind the primary bevel at 25-degrees and the secondary bevel at 30-degrees. For fine sharpening, buy 220-, 320- and 600-grit silicon carbide (black) waterproof paper. It took the glue of with the out of the box settings, it had to (i knew less than nothing about planes). I didnt too much care for the heavy dip-coat of oil that by the time you catch it has gone everywhere but there was no sign of rust. Some woodworkers prefer low-angle block planes for end-grain work. Cost nearly 100, so should have been much better than the above planes. I have the yellow one! I started off with, A "third hand" makes a lot of difference and and is unbeatable for safety. Hi Paul, I love these posts from you, as I find them both inspirational and motivational. I dont know what itll be like once fettled and tuned, but this one will need almost complete reassembly (if it is fixable at all) to prevent it from gouging the wood. I believe you can tune up any plane I remember you tuned old Record plane) So whats the difference )) Just amount of time and sand paper you need to spend for tuning. That said, as I said somewhere, I think I can have this plane working in 15 to 20 minutes. Using a block plane feels almost natural--and very craftsmanlike. A few years ago, before I knew better, I bought a new Stanley No 6 from Axminster.

You can always flatten the sole on any plane. Know anyone who may be interested in purchasing a barely used stanley sweetheart no 4, LOL! llustrations: Roxanne LeMoine; Lorna Johnson Photographs: Wm. The ask was actually to post a video or two on upgrading lower end/grade mass-made planes to see if qualities were issues that compromised functionality compared to say the old Stanley and Record planes and then generally to see just how well the planes functioned. How to Install Crown Molding on Kitchen Cabinets, How to Make and Install a Flushmount Sink and Countertop, How to Customize Garage Cabinets for More Storage, How to Build a 2-in-1 Coffee/Dining Table, How to Increase Storage Space In Your Bathroom, Jigsaws: How to Use and Cut With a Jigsaw, We are no longer supporting IE (Internet Explorer), 12 Best Home Improvement Projects Under $100, Do Not Sell My Personal Information CA Residents. C:\Users\Johnny\Pictures\Nikon Transfer 2\189\DSC_0106.JPG. Sorry for such a wordy comment, please feel free to remove if you want too. of the back of the plane blade perfectly flat to the grinding surface and slide it back and forth to flatten it. Hi Paul. I am not saying they are bad I just know I can make an old Stanley work. Extend the cutting edge slightly past the sole. If gaps appear between the back of the iron and the back of the mouth, or if the iron rocks in the throat, remove the iron and carefully file down the high spots in the plane.

I wish I could buy an inexpensive #4 1/2 plane from them, or from any of the other stores that are selling planes based on the old Stanley planes. The sole was relatively flat right out of the box, almost like yours. I will say I picked up a cheap modern Stanley block plane when I first started to learn woodworking last year, and it sat around pretty useless for a while. The blade would best be withdrawn into the mouth for aspects of safety as well as to prevent damage to the work in hand, but it couldnt in this case because the cap iron was set 3mm too far from the cutting edge so that adjuster was maxed out and couldnt withdraw the cutting iron beyond the threads and the angle of the yoke that sets the depth. Subscribe to Paul's YouTube to make sure you don't miss out on his latest videos! Probably I would always recommend not buying any planer with handle fixing through the sole. What I like about what Paul is doing here is covering avenues for people who may not have any other choice, or due to logistics, lack of infrastructure, knowledge etc and would like the easiest path which may be a big box store for their tools. Repeat this process as you progress from coarse- to fine-grit sandpaper. You can cut gradual curves this way. Heres a list. The workbench series inspired me to get started working wood. Maybe one day I can find a vintage plane at a decent price (i have looked on craigslist, the antique store and on ebay), but for now, I am very happy with my expenditures and believe I can use these tools to learn more about hand woodworking. I also purchased 10 of the aluminum harbor freight clamps ($10 each on sale), I have since also purchased a starrett 12in combination square and a DMT superfine diamond plate (I will also get the course and fine). I re-sharpened the blade before starting on the bench and after reassembling it cut like crap. Complete sharpening with the final removal of the burr to create a razor edge. Forums General Woodworking Discussions Tools and Tool Maintenance/Restoration Kobalt #4 Bench Plane. Some timber yard staff might not be that friendly,, You're welcome, Matt. Viewing 10 posts - 1 through 10 (of 10 total), This topic has 9 replies, 6 voices, and was last updated. For $30 I am very pleased. square pieces of 1/4-in. Trusting your experience and not listening to the other opinions on the net about this junk of plane has resulted in me getting a useful tool. In the middle of this range is my favorite, the Stanley low-angle block plane (about $45). (For a block plane, the angle of the cutting edge to the work equals the bedding angle plus the iron's bevel angle.). But recently I found out it works wonders at removing paint. But a plain old plane still comes in handy. quite course adjustment (I cant imagine they thought of using a fine thread pitch).

Raise a burr on the back of the blade, then flip the blade over and sand it off. After all, sharpening and tuning my tools is a skill that has to be acquired just like sawing straight has to be acquired.

Always keep a sharp blade in the plane. You give a fair, i.e. This is what I am looking for.

But despite these shortcomings, theyll still do the job when fitted with a sharp blade. I need a number 7 Stanley/Bailey jointer to overhaul if anyone has an extra!!! I got things as square and true as I could. A quick flatten of the iron and chip breaker and a sharpen, and honestly, it cuts super fine shavings that are translucent. For an archive linking to posts from each month going back in time click here. More-expensive planes usually have a means of adjusting the size of the opening (mouth) in the bottom (sole) of the plane to accommodate fine or thick shavings. The two planes arrived bubble-packed side by side and cost 10 (yellow handled one) and 20 respectively. To me, these things seem minor elements of training for the assembly staff in Asia. Hopkins; Hetherington Photography Written by: Larry Johnston. Keep your plane in a dry area and retract the blade when youre not using it. I then worked the blade (sharpened) as your showed, including starting the rounding the blade edges. We will film the first plane this week and let you know how we go on. Have the necessary tools for this DIY project lined up before you startyoull save time and frustration. My journey only started about a month ago (the reading, gather supplies, etc) and this work took place last week. Then make passes on either side of this at 22-1/2 degrees. The lateral adjuster seems to be made of the same soft stuff, barely usable.

You are not influenced by manufacturers, although many on line woodworking gurus are. Then polish the back of the blade on 600-grit paper to remove the burr (as in Photo 7, except leave the blade in the honing guide). There are a couple serious but fixable issues in this one. These I purchased new from Amazon (with my prime subscription). My thought was that they couldnt be completely worthless and with the right setup and treatment they would be good for learning with. You can contact us here. Cheers Peter. Two points, neither of any importance. Of course most of the time we might pass them up, but look what would have happened had I passed up the Aldi chisels six years ago. You know what I do not get. Personally the small variety of cheap hand tools I have come across in regards to planes have been a waste of time in terms of the sheer effort required to try and get them up to speed. Well, it took about 8 hours to first stroke, but i was pretty close to suicide with this well-made plane. Copyright 2022 Meredith Corporation. Over the weekend I purchased some 2X4s for the bench. A). I am very pleased with it. And it's perfectly shaped to use with one hand. Im currently building your workbench with it, and, whilst I dont have any reference point, never having used anything else, its doing a great job of flattening and smoothing pine. Then polish the back of the blade by sliding it back and forth on progressively finer grits up to 600-grit. Maybe what I like best about your blog is that you are fair and balanced. Anyone try the new $30 Kobalt bench plane at Lowes home improvement store? Stamping your name on a plastic handel is just not the same. The compact block plane fits your hand comfortably, making it easy to use. I am now learning how to use my tools and know I just have to be patient if I dont get it right first time. I cant seem to get rid of it. Even with the adjuster maxed out it was not possible to expose the same amount of blade on each side.

Its a bit small, but works great! Very wrong again!

The 2 adjuster nuts give you a surprisingly fine adjustment. Robin, I got my 4 1/2 off of craigslist just up 95 from you in the Washington DC area. Can I recommend anyone else buying a plane to look for these irretrievable flaws before they start the laborious task of flattening. Big? I hear what you are saying and agree to some degree, Geoff.

Interested to see how this goes. 4. You know that router plane kit we said was coming? Nestle the plane in your palm. Seemed to me I should give a couple of inexpensive planes a fair try to see how they did and so I bought two from B&Q. Heres what you need. Mine only has a single screw holding it on. Center the iron in the throat, and install the iron cap. Photo 1 shows how to adjust the blade height and angle. and I know with certainty that its going to be making shavings 10, 20, 50 maybe 100 years from now. Three twiddles here, a minor tweak there and little eyeballing and the plane could have actually worked out of the bubble pack. Get his weekly digest delivered straight to your inbox. Leave the blade in the guide at this setting until youre completely finished sharpening. They are out there just not as easy to find ad the 4s and 5sJohn. The blade was locked into the body with the centre setscrew cinched way tight, so I suspect set with a screwdriver as no leverage on the lever cam could have got it that tight as it could not be unlocked using the retractive mechanism of the lever cam. To plane wavy lines or difficult-to-plane grain, increase the angle of the plane to 45 degrees or more (Photo 4). Never again. Second, I cant state with certaintly, but I believe the cap iron is screwed tight for freighting only, just something I read some where. Millers Falls planes crop up now and again but mostly because they came in with oversees visitors bringing them in or someone from the 60s buying them and liking them. I bought these two by different manufacturers but made specifically for selling through the same outlet to look over and fettle and see what we could do. Progress through at least 600-grit. I have 2 new cheap planes. You must enter certain information to submit the form on this page. Expand your woodworking skills and get access to a wide range of domestic and imported wood for your furniture projects by learning to flatten and plane rough-sawn lumber. If you tilt it, youll roll the edge and have to go back to a coarser grit to reestablish the cutting edge. A block plane handles many tasks, including some that would be difficult or unsafe to perform with power tools. Photos 6 9 show sharpening basics. We shadowed two experienced makers and installers of custom cabinetry to bring you simple tips and tricks that will keep your built-in projects (and your sanity) on the bubble.. This is obviously a quality control issue and will not have affected all planes by that manufacturer.

I still use that plane and it still works quite well with a newer iron, though my Baileys and Bedrocks were much easier to tune. Compact and versatile, block planes such as the low-angle one (left) and the standard version belong in any woodworking shop. I dont doubt though that it could work well on wood after a proper fettling, at least for some amount of time; but Im quite partial to the older tools I have, and would far rather use them I just love the stories they tell me as I hold them. This provision for small donations has been created due to popular demand from wonderful people that expressed their desire to support Pauls work, you can donate here. Thats a long comment, but I enjoyed it. That's because the bevel on the block plane's iron faces up. It had the adjustable frog, a brass adjustment knob, and wood handles. Solid bedding helps prevent chatter.

Start with 220-grit paper. I think the point is that some people lead ultra busy lives, have limited finances, one or both, and want to get woodworking asap. Then reinstall the cap and snug it down onto the blade. Generally, a smaller opening suits finer work. When I started woodworking 4 years ago I purchased some planes from the local DIY shop. Our Privacy Policy sets out important information about us and how we use and protect your personal data and it also explains your legal rights in respect of it. Now the frog was rocking, fixed that too. I often looked at them when I lived there but never had need of one. Press the first 1 in. Check the cap for full contact, too. Use a carbide scraper to remove paint or finish before planing. When you push the plane forward, you also press the sole down against the wood.